Who is Chronicler? Now that seems a straightforward question, but the reason I ask is this: his gilder can't be real. Every line in this book has a purpose. Every children's rhyme, every song, every story The captain of the robbers spots Chronicler's gilder hanging around his neck and asks what it is.
Chronicler says something like "oh, it's just iron. He rubs it between his fingers, and then says, "Well, I'm not one to come between a man and his religion.
However, this didn't happen. Pat wouldn't have put this in the book if it weren't important, even if he did put it before you know it's important. Hence my question. Why does he have a fake gilder? May 20, PM. In the book it says that The Chronicler never rose above the rank of relar and therefore would not have been awarded a guilder as an arcanist.
Interestingly the Tehlin churches main symbol of worship is a iron circle that represents the circle that tehlu held Encanis to when he burned. This is Pat's way of showing that The Chronicler belongs to the church. May 29, PM. I presumed it was because he knows the name of iron. When you know the name you get a ring. Fela made a ring of stone and I seem to remember a song about Kvothe and his rings suggesting he becomes a more powerful namer.
I was kind of hoping that Chronicler was Denna transformed. Ok, I know, not likely. Just saying. That way she'd actually get to know what was in Kvothe's head. Jun 03, PM. Daniel wrote: "Who is Chronicler? Every children's rhyme, every song, e Bast touches Chronicler's gilder and feels pain. Jun 05, AM. When he was robbed the man fingered his medallion and said that I am not one to get between a man and his religion, which is another point towards the tehlin church.
Through changing the story we tell about ourselves, we change ourselves. But it's incredibly hard to be honest. I wonder if Kvothe adopted the persona of Kote in order to be able to get ahold of his own mythos and story.
It's been rampaging for a while. He might need to get outside it for a bit to get it back under control. That was a wandering comment, but you at least made me think about the story in a new light, so I appreciate that! I really like that you noticed the tidbits about the mating habits of the common draccus, but you assumed that Kvothe is trying to flatter Chronicler.
I hadn't considered that before, but that's an interesting take to consider! Truthfully, I didn't have much reason to mention the point about Chronicler writing the book in this post as it relates to my theory.
That is one well put together fun theory. You got game. To bad it's all wrong. You really ran away with that fairy tail Kvothe made up about Chronicler. And I'm not trying to say this theory is canon.
I just want to put out there that it's plausible. I would say it's within the realm of possible. Not plausible. Like the improbability drive from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Delightful to go anywhere with no time between.
If I was trying to be nice I would say that you have correctly spotted an emotional back and forth between Kvothe and Chronicler. Kvothe resents Chronicler and Bast for the same reason. Kvothe is waiting to die, and they are disrupting his self imposed exile. He wants to be left alone, and neither of them will do that. And yes, I did kind of run away with the tale Kvothe made up about Chronicler.
But the reason I'm hanging on is because I think it's one of the only other occasions where written magic is mentioned - and I think there's still much to be explained regarding written magic. They are his calling names, just words, not true Names. Kvothe's magic and music are bound by his Name, so changing it would free him.
Indeed there is much to be explained regarding written magic. Kvothe doesn't think it is real at the current point in the story. I would say it works like the story you mentioned. The paper sword has the power not the names you put on it, the writing activates the prearranged effect.
Written magic requires your sleeping mind to use. Or you could enchant the paper or ink with your sleeping mind. Chronicler can only use the name of iron, so no righting magic for him. Your evidence is like water.
Words are pale shadows of forgotten names. As names have power, words have power. Words can light fires in the minds of men. Words can wring tears from the hardest hearts. There are seven words that will make a person love you. But a word is nothing but a painting of a fire.
A name is the fire itself. Elodin clapped his hands together, sharply. The answer is that each of us has two minds: a waking mind and a sleeping mind.
Our waking mind is what thinks and talks and reasons. But the sleeping mind is more powerful. It sees deeply to the heart of things. It is the part of us that dreams. It remembers everything.
It gives us intuition. Your waking mind does not understand the nature of names. Your sleeping mind does. It already knows many things that your waking mind does not. That even the simplest of names is well beyond our reach. Tell me of the weight and pressure that forged it from sand and sediment.
Tell me how the light reflects from it. Tell me how the world pulls at the mass of it, how the wind cups it as it moves through the air. Tell me how the traces of its iron will feel the calling of a loden-stone. All of these things and a hundred thousand more make up the name of this stone. He leaned back against the tree, laughing softly. Well, that can't be true can it. Since the whole point of the Naming class with Elodin was to wake the sleeping mind, and learn to use names at leisure, not with preparation or optimal conditions.
It was a name that settled the angry bear, eased it back to sleep. But it is not sleeping so soundly now. We need to rouse it slowly and bring it under your control. The point of class was control. Yes, so you can use sleeping mind at your leisure. Sleeping is a bad word for it. Because it is always separate from your waking mind.
Like how words never become names. Elodin is a bad teacher, so he uses a bad name for a separate unconscious part of you mind. I would call it the third eye. You can only say a name with your third eye open.
Also wrong. You cannot possibly think you have a better grasp of Naming, or teaching Naming, than the Master Namer. He also manages to coax several successes from a notoriously difficult subject. You can only say a name without your third eye open. I can and do. That is like saying no one will ever be better at Naming than this one Namer.
Elodin is currently the best, but anyone who read Ursula K. Le Guin should gite Naming better than Elodin. Pat added the sleeping mind stuff, and the description is intentionally confusing.
Except the unconscious is not magic. You are right though naming is like lucid dreaming, or self hypnosis. Waking it does not mean it is your waking mind. Like how words are just words, it's not a perfect analogy.
The point is you need you third eye open to use names. Like you can say the Chandians names but without your third eye open you can't master them. No, it's like me saying to you that you do not know this subject better than the author, or the character he has created, or the magic he has created. Which leads to my second point. Feel free to back this up with reference to the books. You won't be able to, because it's your opinion, and isn't stated in-universe.
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